tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5846567313402731847.post3361247693839237748..comments2024-01-08T12:37:24.482-08:00Comments on Living Armstrongism: Reading PCG's Booklet, The War on MarriageRedfox712http://www.blogger.com/profile/17734930967002040931noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5846567313402731847.post-67257163428902832122015-11-13T08:31:12.843-08:002015-11-13T08:31:12.843-08:00Well, alcoholics might perceive the gateway into h...Well, alcoholics might perceive the gateway into homosexuality as being some guy or gal, out on the town, making the bar scene, very horny, but striking out pretty badly with the opposite sex. Then, suddenly, at a vulnerable moment, and three sheets to the wind, being approached by a gay person offering sexual favors, succumbing, and then actually liking it, and seeking to duplicate the experience. And, I suppose that such things do happen from time to time, but most homosexuals insist that they were born with their sexual orientation, just as heterosexuals are born with theirs. Some are even dismayed, and consumed by self-loathing upon discovering this in often shocking ways. <br /><br />What the ACOG extremists are witnessing is not a war in which homosexuals are winning, as one more proof of the end times. Instead, they are seeing the homosexual orientation being brought out in the open, rather than being suppressed and repressed. It is the emergence of a more humane approach to people who people who were ill understood throughout large parts of history.<br /><br />Some people are natural contrarians, but very few people would willingly choose to be part of a highly persecuted minority. The problem with that line of logic when dealing with Christians, is that most Christians did actually choose to be part of a persecuted minority. Christians know that they were not born Christian, so, in some cases, a false parallel is drawn, making it easier for Christians to believe that gay people would also make a conscious decision to practice a lifestyle, in spite of probable persecution, or even death.<br /><br />In the 1960s, "kind" people would seek understanding for their minority friends by saying such things as "Oh, don't you realize that so and so would have wanted to be white if he had been given a choice?" The fact is, black people as an example, actually enjoyed being black. They just hated the inconveniences involved in being treated as less than by the majority. Most would have preferred simply being able to be all that they could be without artificially imposed limitations, just as the majority is able to do. <br /><br />We can't really know where all of this is going. Obviously, societal changes often make certain groups feel threatened, even as they make others feel less threatened. While nobody anywhere is suggesting laws compelling all people to become bisexual, some groups are treating the changes we see as if that were actually the case. But, it is inconsistent with their beliefs that in the end times everyone will be compelled to embrace the Catholic faith. <br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5846567313402731847.post-86178527215062216562015-11-12T08:12:57.874-08:002015-11-12T08:12:57.874-08:00My own anecdotal experience is that the most homop...My own anecdotal experience is that the most homophobic males are boozing alcoholics. It is my perspective that calling attention to homosexuals and condemning them some how makes the boozing homophobe more of a man (since alcohol decreases the "manhood").<br /><br />Now it would be interesting to do a sociological study on this, focusing on the Armstrongist Churches where alcoholism runs higher than the norm for society in general. In fact, recent studies show that the stats for "at risk" populations have the percentages lower than for the disclosed percentages for the WCG congregations disclosed by Dale Hampton as he went through the WCG congregations in the 1970s to bring the message about alcoholism to the masses. He said that 18% of the Seattle congregation were alcoholics. That's way higher than the general population. You know, some people might think that Armstrongism attracts alcoholics. I know of congregations where alcoholics came into the church and took over: They looked so like "the converted" in their natural state that really, you couldn't tell "the converted" from the newly baptized alcoholics.<br /><br />This makes sense, of course, since Herbert Armstrong and GTA were boozing alcoholics. We're pretty sure that Flurry is given his DUI just after a Feast Day, but without a DNA blood test we won't be able to pin that down definitively.<br /><br />Now as for alcoholics and marriage, it should be pointed out that Herbert Armstrong wrote "How to Have a Happy Marriage". I don't remember when it was published -- some time in the 1950s, originally, I think (I'm too lazy to go check, sorry). Yet, there he was, getting a divorce from Ramona. The insulting part was that as members, we ended up paying the $5 million settlement. It should also be noted that Herbert Armstrong's incest with his daughter Dorothy came out in the divorce trial.<br /><br />What should we make of this? Whereas, Hilliker would like us to believe that homosexuals are automatically pedophiles (without any substantiating studies to establish the truth), at a time we know that their hero, Herbert Armstrong was one. As David Robinson pointed out in his book, if Herbert Armstrong had been caught in Texas, he would have received the death penalty.<br /><br />This is just a minor thing in the scheme of things, seeing as how Deuteronomy declares a death sentence on PCG ministers, since they are all false prophets. It's too bad that Hillliker and Fraser don't take up the mantle to condemn false prophets and warn everyone that whoso becomes one shall not inherit the kingdom of God -- they are to be cast into the Lake of Fire to be burned up and disappear for all eternity.<br /><br />I guess they could give the excuse that they were born "that way". God should forgive them of being false prophets because they can't help it because it's in their DNA, but then, if they don't acknowledge the very recent scientific studies that homosexuality is DNA heritage based (along with alcoholism), they really shouldn't get a free pass for being false prophets.<br /><br />Throw them in the Lake of Fire, I say.<br /><br />And if they happen to go to a biker bar unfriendly to false prophets and they are taken out to be mercilessly tortured and killed, so much the better.<br /><br />It would be symmetric justice. It's doubtful anyone would mourn them and the perpetrators would probably get off with a slap on the wrists (perhaps convicted of a lesser crime of illegal parking [on top of the false prophet] and given a ticket free from jail time).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com