tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5846567313402731847.post4054544153837994090..comments2024-01-08T12:37:24.482-08:00Comments on Living Armstrongism: PCG Glorifying Slavery in the BibleRedfox712http://www.blogger.com/profile/17734930967002040931noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5846567313402731847.post-37484814739646970462015-10-30T13:36:01.981-07:002015-10-30T13:36:01.981-07:00What terrible behavior. Thank you, Black Ops Mikey...What terrible behavior. Thank you, Black Ops Mikey, for exposing such behavior here.Redfox712https://www.blogger.com/profile/17734930967002040931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5846567313402731847.post-80106111395056691322015-10-30T10:01:28.117-07:002015-10-30T10:01:28.117-07:00It was some time in the 1970s when Gerald Flurry w...It was some time in the 1970s when Gerald Flurry was relegated to Quincy, Washington -- the very worst place for a politically motivated upward mobile minister -- and while he was there, he announced to the WCG congregation in a sermon, "No one has any rights!". Some met this with great acceptance. I, on the other hand, was very grateful for the United States Constitution. <br /><br />It should be clear that in the mind of all Armstrongist leaders that everyone but them should be slaves and they should be slave masters. One cult leader from Australia made it clear by saying that those of the 'yellow race' would be domestic servants during the millennium (I have no idea where this idea comes from -- he must like Chinese cooking, I guess) and that Blacks would be assigned hard labor outdoors.<br /><br />It is always a safe bet to assume that Armstrongist leaders want a social order that includes slavery at the bottom and them at the top. In fact, slavery of a sort was practiced at Big Sandy during the time that Conscientious Objectors served there. Today, there are reports (and a You-Tube video or two) on the virtual slavery of people working for Dave Pack at the Wadsworth compound. I'm thankful that so far the Armstrongists haven't gained enough power and control to emulate Warren Jeffs and the FLDS, although the House of Yahweh with Ysrael Hawkins may come a long way toward the same goals: Unpaid child labor. Some of the men in the FLDS typically work 21 hour days. The best they can hope for is to gain enough wives and children to move to prosperity sufficient to be prominent in their compounds.<br /><br />The idea of slavery is at the very core of Armstrongism and the leaders can't wait to bring it to the world. Hilliker is simply a harbinger of things to come if the PCG and other Armstrongist groups get their way and come to power.<br /><br />Imagine a completely dystopian future where you are a slave in oppressed misery and you can't even commit suicide to escape it.<br /><br />These are very evil people who do not want others to have freedom.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5846567313402731847.post-62416836820499873092015-10-29T23:55:22.519-07:002015-10-29T23:55:22.519-07:00I didn't even mention that the Nazis used pris...I didn't even mention that the Nazis used prisoners as forced labor. How were those people not slaves? How dare Hilliker should idealize slave masters considering these terrible recent events.<br /><br />The idealization of slave owners here simply show yet again how the PCG leadership seems to be utterly entranced by power.<br /><br />PCG, don't whitewash the past. Whitewash the future.<br /><br />Make a better tomorrow. Don't sanitize the past. Redfox712https://www.blogger.com/profile/17734930967002040931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5846567313402731847.post-88699600451728533722015-10-29T07:55:40.593-07:002015-10-29T07:55:40.593-07:00When I was a student at Ambassador College, the to...When I was a student at Ambassador College, the topic of slavery was discussed. Basically, in condoning the practice, the ministers compared it to the indentured servant concept practiced by the pilgrims in the 1600s, in which poor English people who could not afford the trip to America contracted with wealthy individuals who would pay their passage, and then the poor ones would work exclusively for their benefactors for X number of years to repay the debt. So, even in this, white people were treated on a higher level than the African slaves who were brought to America against their will. <br /><br />Joel Hilliker and people who share his attitudes need to realize that there are always much better alternatives to slavery of any kind. He worries about creditors suffering a loss without mentioning that this was essentially what happened every Jubillee year according to the law of Moses. <br /><br />We could go on and on about this, including Joseph's brothers selling him to the Egyptians, and the whole nation of Israel going into slavery as a result. Egyptian slavery was probably more akin to American slavery of Africans. Some male slaves were castrated in Biblical times, and attractive females were used for sexual purposes.<br /><br />The Holocaust was largely the Germans using the Jews as slave labor to build Hitler's public works projects. As the German nation became desensitized and lost their national humanity, the Jews and others were subjected to increasingly cruelties, torture, starvation, death, and experimentation. <br /><br />Rather than glorifying the slavery practiced by the ancients, ACOG members would be better served by acknowledging that while we still have imperfect practices today, they are much more elevated and evolved than what was common amongst the ancient Israelites. The basic problem in Armstrongism is that there is little understanding or respect for freedom, a condition in which the human spirit flourishes.<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.com