Living Armstrongism: Encounters with HWA's Books In The Flesh

Saturday, June 12, 2010

Encounters with HWA's Books In The Flesh

In a public library I saw that it held hardback copies of Mystery of the Ages and The Missing Dimension in Sex by HWA. I even took Mystery of the Ages out once.

Once I was looking among some second hand books and I saw a hardback copy of Mystery of the Ages. I also saw a copy of Alexander Hyslop's The Two Babylon, a book which HWA used often.

Those are the only times I have seen HWA books physically.

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SteveJune 12, 2010 at 6:09 AM
Would you like to buy it? I have HWA's autobiography too. Discount price.
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Mary LaneJune 12, 2010 at 8:47 AM
I also have seen MOA in several libraries that I visit. I have cards to several different libraries in different states and towns.

I often wonder if the librarian noticed that HWA claimed it to be "the most important book since the Bible"? of course I cannot remove it, any more than I can remove those about Mormonsim, or the Jehovah's Witnesses.

It is a free country, and these religious charlatans can deceive all who are willing to listen. You are only free if you choose to question anyone who makes claims to be "the only true church"
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GledwoodJune 12, 2010 at 12:01 PM
Do you mind my asking what's your connection with Armstrongism? I've been reading your blog for a while and always assumed you were an ex member of his church. But now you say you hadn't seen a print copy of his work before those library encounters, I'm confused ...
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Redfox712June 12, 2010 at 2:45 PM
Gledwood,

I was a follower of LCG from 2000 till 2008.

I saw them on tv, read their stuff, and soon became absolutely convinced that they were truly God's people.

I never actually joined them. Once I contacted one of LCG's ministers to enter but he rejected me because I did not realize that I had to let him visit me before I could attend.

So I never attended their services or was baptized by them but I extensive read the COGs' writings so was very familiar with their teachings.

In 2008 I finally woke up and realized that there was no way that HWA could possibly have been a servant of God.

What convinced me not to listen to HWA was the many false prophecies he taught, that Jesus would return in 1936, the end of World War II, 1975, by 2005, etc.

He also practiced an immoral lifestyle and acted as a cruel dictator to his loyal followers.

After renouncing Armstrongism I read all I could about it from non-followers since I rarely read such things while I was an Armstrongite. There were things I knew, particularly about LCG, that I did not see stated anywhere else so I decided to write this blog to share what I knew.

Hope that clear things up.

Redfox712
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RichardJune 12, 2010 at 5:03 PM
As I recall, part of the promotional campaign for MOA in 1985-86 involved providing copies to public libraries.

It was sold in bookstores during that time as well, for those who simply were not the type to order books from a church.

As I'm sure you're aware, Gerald Flurry offers copies of MOA (paperback, I assume) on his telecast several times a year.
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Henrik V BlunckJune 12, 2010 at 5:51 PM
I was also surprised when you said you hadn't seen them before. I thought everyone in the vicinity of Armstrongism (under its many forms) had seen these books. ;-)

Anyway, I just created a blog on Armstrongism which you might also like to follow: http://armstrongism-ultimate-guide.blogspot.com/
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Redfox712June 18, 2010 at 10:03 PM
I'd read those writings on the Internet. Just about everything produced by HWA's WCG has been posted online. But aside from those moment I had not seen HWA's works in physical form.
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Fall of Berlin Wall NOT Proof HWA was Right

It is often asserted that the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989 proved that HWA was right and he really did see the future.

This of course is nonsense. Herbert W. Armstrong said that Christ would return within twenty years in his book Mystery of the Ages. (PCG has since deleted those words so someone in there knows HWA spoke nonsense.) How convenient for them to forget this.

Also Herbert W. Armstrong never said the Soviet Union would collapse. He thought it would survive intact until a few years after Christ's return. It shows how biased some many in the COGs are that they never seem to notice this. This inconvenient truth is just tossed into the memory hole.

It is true that HWA said that some Eastern European states would break away from Moscow's orbit and join the European Empire he said would arise at any moment. But he never talked of the Soviet Union collapsing. He did not teach that. Also he portrayed the rise of the European Empire to be far quicker then what has actually happened. In Mystery of the Ages Christ was supposed to return by 2005 at the most.

So assertions that the fall of the Berlin Wall somehow prove that HWA was right is just complete nonsense spread by people who, for whatever reason, are still in denial that HWA was a false prophet who merely talked out of his own "human reasoning".

Truth about Roderick C. Meredith

What sort of man is he? A man who could say things like this.

"Mr. Armstrong has reminded us again that we are to disfellowship any members who attend GTA's [Garner Ted Armstrong's] campaigns, church services or other meetings. Some of our weaker members apparently do not realize that this man is in direct rebellion against God and His government! We must not allow them, or ourselves, to rationalize about this matter, to try to "help the underdog," or in any other way lend support to one whose gross immorality, whose long standing "play acting" and hypocrisy, and whose direct insubordination to the Government of God has long been and is now a source of confusion and DIVISION among God's people. So, as per Mr. Armstrong's instruction, I charge and exhort every one of you faithful ministers of the living Christ to explain this in no uncertain terms to your members, to warn them about this cause of division and then to disfellowship any who consort with GTA or any of his fellows." (Roderick C. Meredith, Pastor's Report, May 21, 1979, pp. 1-2.)

See here for this statement's context.

David Robinson on Roderick C. Meredith

WCG minister David Robinson had this to say about Roderick C. Meredith in a letter he wrote to him on September 19, 1979.

"During the ten years I have been an employee of the Worldwide Church, you have been poorly spoken of by most of the ministers and employees I have known. I vividly remember the absolute unbounded glee that was openly expressed by a good number of respected men in the church when you were first "shanghaied." [In 1972.] I could begin by naming names, which I am sure would shock you. I was one of the few who stood, where possible, for you. Your tenure as superintendent of ministers, as I believe the office was then called, was looked on as nightmarish. While you held office during the years of growth, most of those whom I know gave you very little credit for that growth. Almost everyone whom I know, whether they be former friends of yours, or continuing foes, recalls insensitive and terrible things you have done. Without exception, at least among my acquaintances, they all credit you with an unbridled lust for power and list you as one who is willing to pay the price of gaining that power, no matter what. I have, through many of the last few years, believed you had principles you would not violate. Many a man of experience in the church assured me of my error. Events have proven me wrong and them right. Mr. Armstrong has himself been widely quoted as saying of you that you were so righteous that you were so "righteous you were unrighteous." " (David Robinson, Herbert Armstrong's Tangled Web, Chapter 16, p. 207.)

Of course it is impossible for me to personally verify these assertions but people deserve to know what this knowledgeable man had to say about him.

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Encounters with HWA's Books In The Flesh

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