Living Armstrongism: LCG's Disturbingly Casual Attitude to Disfellowshippings Exposed (Banned by HWA)

Saturday, February 28, 2015

LCG's Disturbingly Casual Attitude to Disfellowshippings Exposed (Banned by HWA)

Banned by HWA has released a most intriguing post about a person writing to LCG regarding a recent wave of disfellowshippings that has recently occurred. This correspondence reveals the casual attitude LCG's leaders seem to have regarding kicking out members.

The Living Church of God does not arbitrarily disfellowship or mark individuals. These things happen because of individuals not obeying God, or causing division or other disruptions in the Church. It has been our experience that talking with disfellowshipped members will always result in them stating they were unfairly and unjustly put out of the Church. We can assure you that this is not the practice of God’s Church.

One commenter said the following:

Gotta love the "because of individuals not obeying God" line as a reason for disfellowshipment. Left unsaid: "We are the arbiters of such obedience."

There is also a most fascinating discussion regarding the things that has been going on within LCG. Here's one example of what is said:

Why is Jim Meredith watching NCIS while his father tells members not to watch violent/sexual TV programs?

I can personally testify that Meredith does often tell people not to watch violent or sexual programs. The commenter brings up a valid point.

Alas, things such as LCG's recent reported wave of expulsions are certain to occur again. I see no sign that LCG's leaders are changing their behavior to stop high handed behavior like this. Disfellowshipping LCG members will happen again.

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Byker BobFebruary 28, 2015 at 11:26 PM
It really seems as if these ACOGs are programmed to self-destruct. I personally believe that if management of a splinter group uses the law they preach to hurt, confuse, or domineer over members and their finances, those leaders will lose whatever reward they anticipate receiving from Father God. They are modern day Pharisees. Also, such behavior will curse their ministries, preventing them from being blessed, or growing. Certainly, nobody should be wasting their tithes on a cursed evangelistic effort. It would be better to use them on one's own personal ministry, like helping the homeless, assisting battered women, and getting teenaged prostitutes into a better lifestyle.

Armstrongism is gradually falling prey to its own pathologies, and consequently, the more this produces bad results, the more heavy-handedly they apply their unworkable methodology. It is another part of the squeeze play, coupled with continued failure of their prophecies and falling income due to their graying demographic.

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AnonymousMarch 1, 2015 at 7:13 AM
Yes, Byker Bob, these days you can go to an ACoG service and see 50 shades of gray heads.
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Redfox712March 1, 2015 at 8:23 PM
Byker Bob,

That was a brilliant comment. You are so right. Truly they are cursed works.

Black Ops Mikey,

That was a good pun.
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Fall of Berlin Wall NOT Proof HWA was Right

It is often asserted that the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989 proved that HWA was right and he really did see the future.

This of course is nonsense. Herbert W. Armstrong said that Christ would return within twenty years in his book Mystery of the Ages. (PCG has since deleted those words so someone in there knows HWA spoke nonsense.) How convenient for them to forget this.

Also Herbert W. Armstrong never said the Soviet Union would collapse. He thought it would survive intact until a few years after Christ's return. It shows how biased some many in the COGs are that they never seem to notice this. This inconvenient truth is just tossed into the memory hole.

It is true that HWA said that some Eastern European states would break away from Moscow's orbit and join the European Empire he said would arise at any moment. But he never talked of the Soviet Union collapsing. He did not teach that. Also he portrayed the rise of the European Empire to be far quicker then what has actually happened. In Mystery of the Ages Christ was supposed to return by 2005 at the most.

So assertions that the fall of the Berlin Wall somehow prove that HWA was right is just complete nonsense spread by people who, for whatever reason, are still in denial that HWA was a false prophet who merely talked out of his own "human reasoning".

Truth about Roderick C. Meredith

What sort of man is he? A man who could say things like this.

"Mr. Armstrong has reminded us again that we are to disfellowship any members who attend GTA's [Garner Ted Armstrong's] campaigns, church services or other meetings. Some of our weaker members apparently do not realize that this man is in direct rebellion against God and His government! We must not allow them, or ourselves, to rationalize about this matter, to try to "help the underdog," or in any other way lend support to one whose gross immorality, whose long standing "play acting" and hypocrisy, and whose direct insubordination to the Government of God has long been and is now a source of confusion and DIVISION among God's people. So, as per Mr. Armstrong's instruction, I charge and exhort every one of you faithful ministers of the living Christ to explain this in no uncertain terms to your members, to warn them about this cause of division and then to disfellowship any who consort with GTA or any of his fellows." (Roderick C. Meredith, Pastor's Report, May 21, 1979, pp. 1-2.)

See here for this statement's context.

David Robinson on Roderick C. Meredith

WCG minister David Robinson had this to say about Roderick C. Meredith in a letter he wrote to him on September 19, 1979.

"During the ten years I have been an employee of the Worldwide Church, you have been poorly spoken of by most of the ministers and employees I have known. I vividly remember the absolute unbounded glee that was openly expressed by a good number of respected men in the church when you were first "shanghaied." [In 1972.] I could begin by naming names, which I am sure would shock you. I was one of the few who stood, where possible, for you. Your tenure as superintendent of ministers, as I believe the office was then called, was looked on as nightmarish. While you held office during the years of growth, most of those whom I know gave you very little credit for that growth. Almost everyone whom I know, whether they be former friends of yours, or continuing foes, recalls insensitive and terrible things you have done. Without exception, at least among my acquaintances, they all credit you with an unbridled lust for power and list you as one who is willing to pay the price of gaining that power, no matter what. I have, through many of the last few years, believed you had principles you would not violate. Many a man of experience in the church assured me of my error. Events have proven me wrong and them right. Mr. Armstrong has himself been widely quoted as saying of you that you were so righteous that you were so "righteous you were unrighteous." " (David Robinson, Herbert Armstrong's Tangled Web, Chapter 16, p. 207.)

Of course it is impossible for me to personally verify these assertions but people deserve to know what this knowledgeable man had to say about him.

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Saturday, February 28, 2015

LCG's Disturbingly Casual Attitude to Disfellowshippings Exposed (Banned by HWA)

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