Living Armstrongism: COGs Clinging to British Israelism

Thursday, June 9, 2016

COGs Clinging to British Israelism

Ambassador Watch has an intriguing post which shows how British Israelism continues to be taught within the COGs even though it seems to be increasingly accepted in private by the COGs' leaders that it simply is not true.

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AnonymousJune 9, 2016 at 6:39 PM
We have to ask, what ever happened to Herbert Armstrong's statement, "Prove us wrong and we will change!"?

We've proved them wrong repeatedly and they have refused to change. In the case of British Israelism, Armstrongists promote it when they know it's wrong and do so contemptuously to defy truth, just to hold on to a century old superstition of magic and science fiction alternative earth history.

It's insulting.

It's time they admit they are wrong and change, just like Herbert Armstrong said they would.

Liars are supposed to not be able to inherit the Kingdom of God, but Armstrongists would have you believe that it requires lying to attain the Kingdome of God.
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Redfox712June 10, 2016 at 3:39 PM
Thanks for your comment.

It is terrible the COGs continue to promote utter nonsense wasting the time of those who are tricked into believing this nonsense.
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Byker BobJune 11, 2016 at 1:00 PM
There was a time when they would be blanketing their media and airwaves with advance opinions on the upcoming British vote on secession from the EU, and proclaiming it as one more sign of the end times. Does anyone have any knowledge of any of the splinter groups jumping on the HWA bandwagon regarding this? Are they losing confidence in the HWA prophecy mold and timeline? Or, have they learned some lessons about safety and credibility?

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Redfox712June 11, 2016 at 1:48 PM
I suspect they still teach such things. But it so hard to know what their attitude to these ideas are precisely.
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Fall of Berlin Wall NOT Proof HWA was Right

It is often asserted that the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989 proved that HWA was right and he really did see the future.

This of course is nonsense. Herbert W. Armstrong said that Christ would return within twenty years in his book Mystery of the Ages. (PCG has since deleted those words so someone in there knows HWA spoke nonsense.) How convenient for them to forget this.

Also Herbert W. Armstrong never said the Soviet Union would collapse. He thought it would survive intact until a few years after Christ's return. It shows how biased some many in the COGs are that they never seem to notice this. This inconvenient truth is just tossed into the memory hole.

It is true that HWA said that some Eastern European states would break away from Moscow's orbit and join the European Empire he said would arise at any moment. But he never talked of the Soviet Union collapsing. He did not teach that. Also he portrayed the rise of the European Empire to be far quicker then what has actually happened. In Mystery of the Ages Christ was supposed to return by 2005 at the most.

So assertions that the fall of the Berlin Wall somehow prove that HWA was right is just complete nonsense spread by people who, for whatever reason, are still in denial that HWA was a false prophet who merely talked out of his own "human reasoning".

Truth about Roderick C. Meredith

What sort of man is he? A man who could say things like this.

"Mr. Armstrong has reminded us again that we are to disfellowship any members who attend GTA's [Garner Ted Armstrong's] campaigns, church services or other meetings. Some of our weaker members apparently do not realize that this man is in direct rebellion against God and His government! We must not allow them, or ourselves, to rationalize about this matter, to try to "help the underdog," or in any other way lend support to one whose gross immorality, whose long standing "play acting" and hypocrisy, and whose direct insubordination to the Government of God has long been and is now a source of confusion and DIVISION among God's people. So, as per Mr. Armstrong's instruction, I charge and exhort every one of you faithful ministers of the living Christ to explain this in no uncertain terms to your members, to warn them about this cause of division and then to disfellowship any who consort with GTA or any of his fellows." (Roderick C. Meredith, Pastor's Report, May 21, 1979, pp. 1-2.)

See here for this statement's context.

David Robinson on Roderick C. Meredith

WCG minister David Robinson had this to say about Roderick C. Meredith in a letter he wrote to him on September 19, 1979.

"During the ten years I have been an employee of the Worldwide Church, you have been poorly spoken of by most of the ministers and employees I have known. I vividly remember the absolute unbounded glee that was openly expressed by a good number of respected men in the church when you were first "shanghaied." [In 1972.] I could begin by naming names, which I am sure would shock you. I was one of the few who stood, where possible, for you. Your tenure as superintendent of ministers, as I believe the office was then called, was looked on as nightmarish. While you held office during the years of growth, most of those whom I know gave you very little credit for that growth. Almost everyone whom I know, whether they be former friends of yours, or continuing foes, recalls insensitive and terrible things you have done. Without exception, at least among my acquaintances, they all credit you with an unbridled lust for power and list you as one who is willing to pay the price of gaining that power, no matter what. I have, through many of the last few years, believed you had principles you would not violate. Many a man of experience in the church assured me of my error. Events have proven me wrong and them right. Mr. Armstrong has himself been widely quoted as saying of you that you were so righteous that you were so "righteous you were unrighteous." " (David Robinson, Herbert Armstrong's Tangled Web, Chapter 16, p. 207.)

Of course it is impossible for me to personally verify these assertions but people deserve to know what this knowledgeable man had to say about him.

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COGs Clinging to British Israelism

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