Monday, March 29, 2010

Hutaree Militia Read Dave Pack's Cult

[Update: More on this from Anderson Cooper of CNN.]

Eight members of Hutaree (pronouned Hut-a-ree), a 'Christian' militia group, have been arrested and indicted for conspiring to commit crimes.

The arrests have been widely reported. See here, here and here.

If true (everyone's innocent until proven guilty) this is a horrifying example of domestic terrorism thankfully avoided.

According to the indictment nine members of Hutaree (including one still out of custody) plotted to murder a law enforcement officer (become cop killers) and then detonate an Improvised Explosive Device at his funeral in order to incite a mass uprising against the US government.

Adherents of these far right militia movements often hold extreme anti-US government views, viewing federal authorities, and in some cases even State authorities, as illegitimate authorities conspiring to create a 'new world order'. Some within this wider movement even believe that the US state is planning to round up dissidents into FEMA camps. A wildly absurd conspiracy theory.

Now the reason I'm mentioning this here is because I went to Hutaree's web site and looked at their Information Sources page. That page features links to several webpages, Financial Times, Asia Times, website of the European Union, WorldNetDaily,, Jack Von Impe Ministries, a counter-cult apologetics web sites.

And then, lo and behold, guess what I saw? A link to Dave Pack's Real Truth magazine website.

So it seems someone at Hutaree liked Pack's stuff enough to provide a link on their website.

This Dave Pack once exploitatively ordered his followers to hand over their assets to his organization. Here is part of what he said during that infamous and wicked, money grubbing blackmail sermon.
(1:11:35) If you hold those riches, I'm telling you, you trust in them! [chastising voice]...I am charged by God, reading this verse to charge all of you out there in the Work, in the church, who have assets. You have a home that's paid off? [yelling] Go get a big chunk out of your home and put your money where your mouth is and send it here! And I'm not talking one, two, three thousand either! How about ten, twenty, thirty, fifty, a hundred thousand dollars— Go do it!! Woo hoo, Mr. Pack, you got serious! [mimicking voice] You haven't heard anything yetkeep listening. [said with haughty attitude]
And he regards himself as an Apostle, just like the false prophet Herbert W. Armstrong.

Now considering that Hutaree also linked to more mainstream Christian web sites it seems a bit strange that they would link to an Armstrongite organization. This suggests to me that they may have been unaware, or perhaps not entirely aware, of the heretical nature of Armstrongism, which denies the Trinity.

Also, if what the indictment say is true, it seems some Hutaree members held very strong anti-US government views. That is quite unlike Armstrongism which if anything actually supports the US. The US is not generally viewed as a threat within Armstrongism, but rather as the heir of Israel based on the historically inaccurate and disproven theory of British Israelism. They are scared of the European Union due to HWA's false, fear inducing prophecies that Europe would conquer and enslave America and Britain during the Great Tribulation just before Christ's return. The specifics of which are often updated in order to further scare members.

Also Armstrongites are often pacifists, a practice HWA may have plagiarized from the Jehovah's Witnesses cult. Hutaree certainly did not know/pay attention to that part of Pack's teachings as the whole purpose of that militia was to survive the turmoil of World War III by being expert in the handing of arms. Armstrongism teaches that God will protect the Philadelphia era Christians from the Great Tribulation. A widespread idea was that they would be taken to Petra.

Now it would be absurd to try to blame Pack for Hutaree's alleged actions but the Armstrongite dogmas that Europe will arise to destroy America and Britain is perfect fuel for these extremist militias' fears that America is being threatened by (non-existent) world conspiracies.


  1. Fitting that Packs cult should be listed. They are from the same strain of defective DNA.
    Why not list the LCG or the PCG?

  2. That's a good question. I can only assume that someone there liked what Pack's splinter group made, probably over their prophetic scenarios involving the rise of a European Empire and their attempts to unite the world.

    Again as I tried to say in the post any influence Pack's RCG sect may have had was clearly very superficial and probably quite self selecting.

    Just watching that CNN report the reporter said the Hutaree members were not known as members of any particular church.

    Furthermore their behavior is very un-Armstrongist. Taking up arms? Armstrongism does not do that. Demonizing the US government as something to be fought against? Armstrongism does not do that. They think God will take them to a place of safety, which is often identified with Petra, Jordan.

    So Hutaree cannot be considered Armstrongite. But it is still fascinating that someone there was reading Pack & Co.'s stuff.